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papa chins

Surf spot · Australia

Is it worth the trip?

31Poor out of 100 for your dates

Stay home

Best on Fri 6: 5 ft swell at 7 s

Each day of your trip, out of 100

Mon 2 · 22 out of 100

Swell
3 ft8 smushy
Energy
89kJ
Wind
NE 9 kn
Temp
21°C

Tue 3 · 40 out of 100

Swell
3 ft5 smushy
Energy
43kJ
Wind
NNW 7 kn
Temp
20°C

Wed 4 · 35 out of 100

Swell
3 ft6 smushy
Energy
37kJ
Wind
WSW 12 kn
Temp
20°C

Thu 5 · 15 out of 100

Swell
3 ft6 smushy
Energy
88kJ
Wind
SSE 14 kn
Temp
19°C

Fri 6 · 42 out of 100

Swell
5 ft7 smushy
Energy
207kJ
Wind
E 3 kn
Temp
19°C

Sat 7 · 19 out of 100

Swell
2 ft4 smushy
Energy
15kJ
Wind
W 6 kn
Temp
22°C

Sun 8 · 13 out of 100

Swell
5 ft7 smushy
Energy
217kJ
Wind
S 13 kn
Temp
17°C

Tap a day for waves, wind and the temperature. Full forecast

Forecast: next 10 days

Full forecast
  1. Mon 222, too small
  2. Tue 340, poor
  3. Wed 435, too small
  4. Thu 515, poor
  5. Fri 642, poor
  6. Sat 719, too small
  7. Sun 813, poor
  8. Mon 939, poor
  9. Tue 1023, poor
  10. Wed 1130, poor

The spot in five facts

  • Faces Etakes swell from the E
  • Offshore: Wwind from the land
  • Intermediate +who it suits
  • Works 2–9 ftof swell
  • Water 20 °C2 mm shorty

Full forecast

every day, every number
Forecast and score for intermediate surfers at papa chins, each day
DayScore for intermediatesSwellEnergyWindTemp
Mon 2Nov22, too small3 ft8 smushy3 ft at break (est.)89kJwind from the north-east, 9 knots21°C
Tue 3Nov40, poor3 ft5 smushy3 ft at break (est.)43kJwind from the north-north-west, 7 knots20°C
Wed 4Nov35, too small3 ft6 smushy2 ft at break (est.)37kJwind from the west-south-west, 12 knots, offshore20°C
Thu 5Nov15, poor3 ft6 smushy3 ft at break (est.)88kJwind from the south-south-east, 14 knots19°C
Fri 6Nov42, poor5 ft7 smushy5 ft at break (est.)207kJwind from the east, 3 knots19°C
Sat 7Nov19, too small2 ft4 smushy2 ft at break (est.)15kJwind from the west, 6 knots, offshore22°C
Sun 8Nov13, poor5 ft7 smushy4 ft at break (est.)217kJwind from the south, 13 knots17°C
Mon 9Nov39, poor5 ft6 smushy4 ft at break (est.)172kJwind from the south-west, 11 knots18°C
Tue 10Nov23, poor3 ft6 smushy4 ft at break (est.)70kJwind from the north, 8 knots21°C
Wed 11Nov30, poor4 ft8 scrumbling5 ft at break (est.)169kJwind from the south, 4 knots20°C
Thu 12Nov36, poor4 ft7 smushy3 ft at break (est.)139kJwind from the south-south-west, 16 knots18°C

Energy is the swell's power, in kJ per metre of wave. Wind is in knots, the arrow where it blows to; green is offshore. More

Tide

  • Mon 2 NovHigh 03:03 +0.3 mLow 08:31 −0.3 mHigh 15:02 +0.7 mLow 22:03 −0.6 m
  • Tue 3 NovHigh 04:15 +0.3 mLow 09:54 −0.3 mHigh 16:12 +0.7 mLow 23:02 −0.6 m
  • Wed 4 NovHigh 05:17 +0.4 mLow 11:10 −0.4 mHigh 17:16 +0.6 mLow 23:54 −0.6 m

Local clock times; heights about mean sea level. On open coasts the times are usually within a quarter of an hour; in bays, estuaries and on the Gulf of Mexico they can be an hour or more out. Tide: EOT20 global ocean tide model, Hart-Davis et al. 2021, DGFI-TUM (doi:10.17882/79489), CC BY 4.0. Times and heights computed by us. A model, not a tide table: check a local table before you go.

Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.

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Photos of papa chins

Botany Bay Ark-shell, Long Reef Rock Platform, Long Reef Aquatic Reserve, Collaroy, Sydney, New South Wales imported from iNaturalist photo 97454384
Near papa chins. Photo: (c) Thomas Mesaglio, some rights reserved (CC BY), CC BY 4.0, Wikimedia Commons
Long Reef platform
Near papa chins. Photo: Poyt448, Peter Woodard, CC BY-SA 4.0, Wikimedia Commons

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About papa chins

Facing, offshore wind, exposure, level and swell range are estimated.

The spot faces E (101°), so it takes swell from the E. The wind blows offshore from the W (281°). It is exposed to the open swell. It suits intermediate surfers and up. It works in 2–9 ft of swell. The sea floor shelves moderately: 10 m deep about 200 m out (1 in 21). On a typical 5 ft, 11 s swell the waves here would break hollow. The sea is about 18°C in August, its coldest month (2 mm shorty), and 24°C in February, its warmest (no wetsuit). The town to stay in is Manly, 7.5 km away (about 15 min by car). Within 5 km we also list 18 surf spots, 1 wind sports spot, 2 dive sites and 1 kayak spot.

Water about 20°C: 2 mm shorty. Typical sea temperature for the time of year, not a forecast.

The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).

Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,790–US$3,420 each

about US$1,790–US$3,420 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, taxi, stay, food, board and wetsuit.

Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.

How we worked it out 
Rough cost per person for this trip
WhatHow we worked it outEach
Flightsreturn MDW to SYD, estimated from distance and season, changing at LAX, full-service airlines, with a hold bagabout US$926–US$1,920
Taxiairport and back, sharedabout US$47–US$74
Stay6 nights, a mid-range double, sharedabout US$356–US$597
Food7 days eating outabout US$322–US$597
Board and wetsuit5 days, or about US$114 to fly your ownabout US$141–US$235
Totalabout US$1,790–US$3,420

For 2 people sharing a room. Lessons, lift-pass deals and insurance are extra. Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.

Where to stay: 3 towns

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about US$134/nightcountry average

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About US$134 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.

Getting there: about 27h 35m

About 27h 35m door to door from Chicago

Fly MDW → SYD, changing at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), then 40 min by road

An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.

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