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papa chins
Surf spot · Australia
Is it worth the trip?
30Poor out of 100 for your dates
Best on Fri 6: 5 ft swell at 6 s
Mon 2 · 21 out of 100
- Swell
- 2 ft7 smushy
- Energy
- 47kJ
- Wind
- ENE 3 kn
- Temp
- 20°C
Tue 3 · 34 out of 100
- Swell
- 3 ft5 smushy
- Energy
- 45kJ
- Wind
- NNE 8 kn
- Temp
- 21°C
Wed 4 · 21 out of 100
- Swell
- 2 ft5 smushy
- Energy
- 25kJ
- Wind
- SW 12 kn
- Temp
- 20°C
Thu 5 · 36 out of 100
- Swell
- 3 ft5 smushy
- Energy
- 30kJ
- Wind
- WSW 14 kn
- Temp
- 19°C
Fri 6 · 41 out of 100
- Swell
- 5 ft6 smushy
- Energy
- 154kJ
- Wind
- W 8 kn
- Temp
- 20°C
Sat 7 · 19 out of 100
- Swell
- 2 ft4 smushy
- Energy
- 16kJ
- Wind
- WNW 4 kn
- Temp
- 22°C
Sun 8 · 21 out of 100
- Swell
- 4 ft8 smushy
- Energy
- 194kJ
- Wind
- SSW 16 kn
- Temp
- 17°C
Tap a day for waves, wind and the temperature. Full forecast
Forecast: next 10 days
Full forecast- Sun 127, too small
- Mon 221, too small
- Tue 334, poor
- Wed 421, too small
- Thu 536, too small
- Fri 641, poor
- Sat 719, too small
- Sun 821, poor
- Mon 933, poor
- Tue 1042, poor
The spot in five facts
- Faces Etakes swell from the E
- Offshore: Wwind from the land
- Intermediate +who it suits
- Works 2–9 ftof swell
- Water 20 °C2 mm shorty
Full forecast
every day, every number
The score doesn't know rips, currents, rocks or your skill.
| Day | Score for intermediates | Swell | Energy | Wind | Temp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 1Nov | 27, too small | 3 ft7 smushy4 ft at break (est.) | 62kJ | wind from the east-south-east, 9 knots | 20°C |
| Mon 2Nov | 21, too small | 2 ft7 smushy3 ft at break (est.) | 47kJ | wind from the east-north-east, 3 knots | 20°C |
| Tue 3Nov | 34, poor | 3 ft5 smushy4 ft at break (est.) | 45kJ | wind from the north-north-east, 8 knots | 21°C |
| Wed 4Nov | 21, too small | 2 ft5 smushy3 ft at break (est.) | 25kJ | wind from the south-west, 12 knots | 20°C |
| Thu 5Nov | 36, too small | 3 ft5 smushy3 ft at break (est.) | 30kJ | offshorewind from the west-south-west, 14 knots, offshore | 19°C |
| Fri 6Nov | 41, poor | 5 ft6 smushy4 ft at break (est.) | 154kJ | offshorewind from the west, 8 knots, offshore | 20°C |
| Sat 7Nov | 19, too small | 2 ft4 smushy2 ft at break (est.) | 16kJ | offshorewind from the west-north-west, 4 knots, offshore | 22°C |
| Sun 8Nov | 21, poor | 4 ft8 smushy3 ft at break (est.) | 194kJ | wind from the south-south-west, 16 knots | 17°C |
| Mon 9Nov | 33, poor | 6 ft7 smushy5 ft at break (est.) | 251kJ | wind from the south-south-west, 12 knots | 17°C |
| Tue 10Nov | 42, poor | 3 ft7 smushy4 ft at break (est.) | 97kJ | wind from the north, 3 knots | 20°C |
| Wed 11Nov | 74, good | 4 ft8 scrumbling5 ft at break (est.) | 219kJ | wind from the north-north-west, 3 knots | 20°C |
Energy is the swell's power, in kJ per metre of wave. Wind is in knots, the arrow where it blows to; green is offshore. More
Tide
- Sun 1 NovHigh 01:48 +0.3 mLow 07:13 −0.4 mHigh 13:53 +0.8 mLow 20:56 −0.6 m
- Mon 2 NovHigh 03:03 +0.3 mLow 08:31 −0.3 mHigh 15:02 +0.7 mLow 22:03 −0.6 m
- Tue 3 NovHigh 04:15 +0.3 mLow 09:54 −0.3 mHigh 16:12 +0.7 mLow 23:02 −0.6 m
Local clock times; heights about mean sea level. On open coasts the times are usually within a quarter of an hour; in bays, estuaries and on the Gulf of Mexico they can be an hour or more out. Tide: EOT20 global ocean tide model, Hart-Davis et al. 2021, DGFI-TUM (doi:10.17882/79489), CC BY 4.0. Times and heights computed by us. A model, not a tide table: check a local table before you go.
Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.
Best time to go
No month stands out
Good days in a typical week, each month, for intermediate surfers, from 2016 on (history scored the same way).
- Jan1of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Jan
- Feb1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Feb
- Mar1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Mar
- Apr2of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Apr
- May2of 7: a trip from Sat 1 May
- Jun2of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Jun
- Jul2of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Jul
- Aug2of 7: a trip from Sat 7 Aug
- Sep2of 7: a trip from Sat 4 Sept
- Oct1of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Oct
- Nov1of 7: a trip from Mon 2 Nov
- Dec1of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Dec
Tap a month to see this spot for a trip then.
Typical, not a forecast.
Map
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Photos of papa chins
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About
the place in full, sources, credits
About papa chins
Facing, offshore wind, exposure, level and swell range are estimated.
The spot faces E (101°), so it takes swell from the E. The wind blows offshore from the W (281°). It is exposed to the open swell. It suits intermediate surfers and up. It works in 2–9 ft of swell. The sea floor shelves moderately: 10 m deep about 200 m out (1 in 21). On a typical 5 ft, 11 s swell the waves here would break hollow. The sea is about 18°C in August, its coldest month (2 mm shorty), and 24°C in February, its warmest (no wetsuit). The town to stay in is Manly, 7.5 km away (about 15 min by car). Within 5 km we also list 18 surf spots, 1 wind sports spot and 2 dive sites.
Water about 20°C: 2 mm shorty. Typical sea temperature for the time of year, not a forecast.
The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).
Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,790–US$3,420 each
about US$1,790–US$3,420 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, taxi, stay, food, board and wetsuit.
Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 30 October 2026.
How we worked it out
| What | How we worked it out | Each |
|---|---|---|
| Flights | return MDW to SYD, estimated from distance and season, changing at LAX, full-service airlines, with a hold bag | about US$925–US$1,920 |
| Taxi | airport and back, shared | about US$47–US$74 |
| Stay | 6 nights, a mid-range double, shared | about US$355–US$596 |
| Food | 7 days eating out | about US$322–US$596 |
| Board and wetsuit | 5 days, or about US$114 to fly your own | about US$141–US$234 |
| Total | about US$1,790–US$3,420 |
For 2 people sharing a room. Lessons, lift-pass deals and insurance are extra. Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.
Where to stay: 3 towns
12 min by car · 3 places to stay
about US$134/nightcountry average
About Mona Vale its beds, food and every spot near it
- Beds in Manly on Booking.com
13 min by car · 50 places to stay
- Beds in Sydney on Booking.com
32 min by car · 446 places to stay
About US$134 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 30 October 2026.
Getting there: about 27h 35m
About 27h 35m door to door from Chicago
Fly MDW → SYD, changing at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), then 40 min by road
Flights MDW → SYD on your dates · Skyscanner
An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.