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Smith point

Surf spot · United States

Is it worth the trip?

11Poor out of 100 for your dates

Stay home

Best on Mon 9: too small (3 ft swell at 8 s), sheltered (estimated): holds up in a blow

Each day of your trip, out of 100

Tue 3 · 2 out of 100

Swell
1 ft8 s
Energy
12kJ
Wind
SW 10 kn
Temp
15°C

Wed 4 · 3 out of 100

Swell
1 ft2 s
Energy
1kJ
Wind
WSW 6 kn
Temp
16°C

Thu 5 · 3 out of 100

Swell
2 ft7 s
Energy
22kJ
Wind
SSW 8 kn
Temp
17°C

Fri 6 · 8 out of 100

Swell
3 ft5 s
Energy
42kJ
Wind
SSW 11 kn
Temp
18°C

Sat 7 · 12 out of 100

Swell
4 ft7 s
Energy
141kJ
Wind
SW 8 kn
Temp
17°C

Sun 8 · 15 out of 100

Swell
4 ft8 s
Energy
208kJ
Wind
WNW 10 kn
Temp
13°C

Mon 9 · 17 out of 100

Swell
3 ft8 s
Energy
89kJ
Wind
NW 3 kn
Temp
13°C

Tap a day for waves, wind and the temperature. Full forecast

Forecast: next 10 days

Full forecast
  1. Mon 21, too small
  2. Tue 32, too small
  3. Wed 43, too small
  4. Thu 53, too small
  5. Fri 68, too small
  6. Sat 712, too small
  7. Sun 815, too small
  8. Mon 917, too small
  9. Tue 101, too small
  10. Wed 112, too small

The spot in five facts

  • Faces Wtakes swell from the W
  • Offshore: Ewind from the land
  • Beginner +who it suits
  • Works 5–20 ftof swell
  • Water 14 °C4/3 wetsuit and boots

Full forecast

every day, every number

Smith point does not suit beginners. This is the forecast for experts, so you can see what it does.

Forecast and score for expert surfers at Smith point, each day
DayScorefor ExpertSwellEnergyWindTemp
Mon 2Nov1, too small1 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)13kJwind from the south-west, 11 knots15°C
Tue 3Nov2, too small1 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)12kJwind from the south-west, 10 knots15°C
Wed 4Nov3, too small1 ft2 s1 ft at break (est.)1kJwind from the west-south-west, 6 knots16°C
Thu 5Nov3, too small2 ft7 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)22kJwind from the south-south-west, 8 knots17°C
Fri 6Nov8, too small3 ft5 s2 ft at break (est.)42kJwind from the south-south-west, 11 knots18°C
Sat 7Nov12, too small4 ft7 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)141kJwind from the south-west, 8 knots17°C
Sun 8Nov15, too small4 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)208kJwind from the west-north-west, 10 knots13°C
Mon 9Nov17, too small3 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)89kJwind from the north-west, 3 knots13°C
Tue 10Nov1, too small1 ft4 s1 ft at break (est.)2kJwind from the west-north-west, 14 knots12°C
Wed 11Nov2, too small2 ft4 s3 ft at break (est.)15kJwind from the north-west, 18 knots12°C

Energy is the swell's power, in kJ per metre of wave. Wind is in knots, the arrow where it blows to; green is offshore. More

Tide

  • Mon 2 NovHigh 00:34 +0.5 mLow 06:34 −0.4 mHigh 12:52 +0.6 mLow 19:20 −0.5 m
  • Tue 3 NovHigh 01:41 +0.5 mLow 07:46 −0.4 mHigh 13:57 +0.6 mLow 20:19 −0.5 m
  • Wed 4 NovHigh 02:42 +0.6 mLow 08:52 −0.5 mHigh 14:59 +0.5 mLow 21:14 −0.6 m

Local clock times; heights about mean sea level. On open coasts the times are usually within a quarter of an hour; in bays, estuaries and on the Gulf of Mexico they can be an hour or more out. Tide: EOT20 global ocean tide model, Hart-Davis et al. 2021, DGFI-TUM (doi:10.17882/79489), CC BY 4.0. Times and heights computed by us. A model, not a tide table: check a local table before you go.

Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.

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About

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About Smith point

Facing, offshore wind, exposure, level and swell range are estimated.

The spot faces W (258°), so it takes swell from the W. The wind blows offshore from the E (78°). It is sheltered to the open swell. It suits beginners and up. It works in 5–20 ft of swell. The sea is about 5°C in February, its coldest month (5/4 or 6/5, hood, boots and gloves), and 23°C in July, its warmest (2 mm shorty). The town to stay in is Center Moriches, 10 km away (about 20 min by car). Within 5 km we also list 1 surf spot.

Water about 14°C: 4/3 wetsuit and boots. Typical sea temperature for the time of year, not a forecast.

The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).

Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,110–US$1,970 each

about US$1,110–US$1,970 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, hire car, stay, food, board and wetsuit.

Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.

How we worked it out 
Rough cost per person for this trip
WhatHow we worked it outEach
Flightsreturn ORD to HVN, estimated from distance and season, 1 airline on the route, with a hold bagabout US$161–US$335
Hire car6 days, sharedabout US$154–US$255
Stay6 nights, a mid-range double, sharedabout US$302–US$503
Food7 days eating outabout US$342–US$637
Board and wetsuit5 days, or about US$114 to fly your ownabout US$148–US$242
Totalabout US$1,110–US$1,970

For 2 people sharing a room. Lessons, lift-pass deals and insurance are extra. Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.

Where to stay: Center Moriches

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Closest

Center Moriches

about 20 min by car · 4 places to stay

about US$114/nightcountry average

See 4 places to stay in Center Moriches · Booking.com

About Center Moriches its beds, food and every spot near it

About US$114 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.

Getting there: about 5h 35m

About 5h 35m door to door from Chicago

Fly ORD → HVN, direct, then 1h 20m by road

An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.