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Smith point

Surf spot · United States

Is it worth the trip?

12Poor out of 100 for your dates

Stay home

Best on Sat 7: too small (4 ft swell at 6 s), sheltered (estimated): holds up in a blow

Each day of your trip, out of 100

Tue 3 · 2 out of 100

Swell
1 ft3 s
Energy
1kJ
Wind
WSW 9 kn
Temp
15°C

Wed 4 · 3 out of 100

Swell
1 ft2 s
Energy
1kJ
Wind
SW 6 kn
Temp
16°C

Thu 5 · 2 out of 100

Swell
2 ft7 s
Energy
22kJ
Wind
SSW 10 kn
Temp
17°C

Fri 6 · 10 out of 100

Swell
4 ft6 s
Energy
102kJ
Wind
SSW 9 kn
Temp
17°C

Sat 7 · 24 out of 100

Swell
4 ft6 s
Energy
94kJ
Wind
NE 5 kn
Temp
17°C

Sun 8 · 23 out of 100

Swell
4 ft8 s
Energy
209kJ
Wind
SSE 1 kn
Temp
15°C

Mon 9 · 3 out of 100

Swell
3 ft8 s
Energy
100kJ
Wind
W 14 kn
Temp
13°C

Tap a day for waves, wind and the temperature. Full forecast

Forecast: next 10 days

Full forecast
  1. Mon 21, too small
  2. Tue 32, too small
  3. Wed 43, too small
  4. Thu 52, too small
  5. Fri 610, too small
  6. Sat 724, too small
  7. Sun 823, too small
  8. Mon 93, too small
  9. Tue 101, too small
  10. Wed 112, too small

The spot in five facts

  • Faces Wtakes swell from the W
  • Offshore: Ewind from the land
  • Beginner +who it suits
  • Works 5–20 ftof swell
  • Water 14 °C4/3 wetsuit and boots

Full forecast

every day, every number
Forecast and score for expert surfers at Smith point, each day
DayScore for expertsSwellEnergyWindTemp
Mon 2Nov1, too small1 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)13kJwind from the west-south-west, 11 knots15°C
Tue 3Nov2, too small1 ft3 s1 ft at break (est.)1kJwind from the west-south-west, 9 knots15°C
Wed 4Nov3, too small1 ft2 s1 ft at break (est.)1kJwind from the south-west, 6 knots16°C
Thu 5Nov2, too small2 ft7 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)22kJwind from the south-south-west, 10 knots17°C
Fri 6Nov10, too small4 ft6 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)102kJwind from the south-south-west, 9 knots17°C
Sat 7Nov24, too small4 ft6 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)94kJwind from the north-east, 5 knots, offshore17°C
Sun 8Nov23, too small4 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)209kJwind from the south-south-east, 1 knot15°C
Mon 9Nov3, too small3 ft8 sunder 1 ft at break (est.)100kJwind from the west, 14 knots13°C
Tue 10Nov1, too small1 ft4 s1 ft at break (est.)2kJwind from the west, 16 knots14°C
Wed 11Nov2, too small2 ft4 s3 ft at break (est.)15kJwind from the north-west, 18 knots10°C

Energy is the swell's power, in kJ per metre of wave. Wind is in knots, the arrow where it blows to; green is offshore. More

Tide

  • Mon 2 NovHigh 00:34 +0.5 mLow 06:34 −0.4 mHigh 12:52 +0.6 mLow 19:20 −0.5 m
  • Tue 3 NovHigh 01:41 +0.5 mLow 07:46 −0.4 mHigh 13:57 +0.6 mLow 20:19 −0.5 m
  • Wed 4 NovHigh 02:42 +0.6 mLow 08:52 −0.5 mHigh 14:59 +0.5 mLow 21:14 −0.6 m

Local clock times; heights about mean sea level. On open coasts the times are usually within a quarter of an hour; in bays, estuaries and on the Gulf of Mexico they can be an hour or more out. Tide: EOT20 global ocean tide model, Hart-Davis et al. 2021, DGFI-TUM (doi:10.17882/79489), CC BY 4.0. Times and heights computed by us. A model, not a tide table: check a local table before you go.

Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.

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About

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About Smith point

Facing, offshore wind, exposure, level and swell range are estimated.

The spot faces W (258°), so it takes swell from the W. The wind blows offshore from the E (78°). It is sheltered to the open swell. It suits beginners and up. It works in 5–20 ft of swell. The sea is about 5°C in February, its coldest month (5/4 or 6/5, hood, boots and gloves), and 23°C in July, its warmest (2 mm shorty). The town to stay in is Center Moriches, 10 km away (about 20 min by car). Within 5 km we also list 1 surf spot.

Water about 14°C: 4/3 wetsuit and boots. Typical sea temperature for the time of year, not a forecast.

The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).

Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,110–US$1,970 each

about US$1,110–US$1,970 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, hire car, stay, food, board and wetsuit.

Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.

How we worked it out 
Rough cost per person for this trip
WhatHow we worked it outEach
Flightsreturn ORD to HVN, estimated from distance and season, 1 airline on the route, with a hold bagabout US$161–US$335
Hire car6 days, sharedabout US$154–US$255
Stay6 nights, a mid-range double, sharedabout US$302–US$503
Food7 days eating outabout US$342–US$637
Board and wetsuit5 days, or about US$114 to fly your ownabout US$148–US$242
Totalabout US$1,110–US$1,970

For 2 people sharing a room. Lessons, lift-pass deals and insurance are extra. Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.

Where to stay: Center Moriches

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Closest

Center Moriches

about 20 min by car · 4 places to stay

about US$114/nightcountry average

See 4 places to stay in Center Moriches · Booking.com

About Center Moriches its beds, food and every spot near it

About US$114 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.

Getting there: about 5h 35m

About 5h 35m door to door from Chicago

Fly ORD → HVN, direct, then 1h 20m by road

An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.