Sailors haven
Surf spot · United States
Is it worth the trip?
42Poor out of 100 for your dates
Best on Sat 7: 3 ft swell at 7 s, 4 hours of offshore wind
Tue 3 · 12 out of 100
- Swell
- 1 ft8 s
- Energy
- 19kJ
- Wind
- WSW 10 kn
- Temp
- 15°C
Wed 4 · 10 out of 100
- Swell
- 1 ft7 s
- Energy
- 13kJ
- Wind
- SW 6 kn
- Temp
- 17°C
Thu 5 · 19 out of 100
- Swell
- 2 ft7 s
- Energy
- 31kJ
- Wind
- SW 9 kn
- Temp
- 17°C
Fri 6 · 25 out of 100
- Swell
- 5 ft5 s
- Energy
- 122kJ
- Wind
- SSW 8 kn
- Temp
- 18°C
Sat 7 · 74 out of 100
- Swell
- 3 ft7 s
- Energy
- 101kJ
- Wind
- NNE 12 kn
- Temp
- 16°C
Sun 8 · 64 out of 100
- Swell
- 3 ft7 s
- Energy
- 92kJ
- Wind
- NNW 11 kn
- Temp
- 13°C
Mon 9 · 35 out of 100
- Swell
- 3 ft7 s
- Energy
- 76kJ
- Wind
- ENE 10 kn
- Temp
- 13°C
Tap a day for waves, wind and the temperature. Full forecast
Forecast: next 9 days
Full forecast- Mon 26, too small
- Tue 312, too small
- Wed 410, too small
- Thu 519, too small
- Fri 625, poor
- Sat 774, good
- Sun 864, good
- Mon 935, too small
- Tue 1023, poor
The spot in five facts
- Faces Stakes swell from the S
- Offshore: Nwind from the land
- Intermediate +who it suits
- Works 2–9 ftof swell
- Water 14 °C4/3 wetsuit and boots
Full forecast
every day, every number
The score doesn't know rips, currents, rocks or your skill.
Sailors haven does not suit beginners. This is the forecast for intermediates, so you can see what it does.
| Day | Scorefor Intermediate | Swell | Energy | Wind | Temp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 2Nov | 6, too small | 1 ft12 s1 ft at break (est.) | 7kJ | wind from the west, 8 knots | 15°C |
| Tue 3Nov | 12, too small | 1 ft8 s2 ft at break (est.) | 19kJ | wind from the west-south-west, 10 knots | 15°C |
| Wed 4Nov | 10, too small | 1 ft7 s2 ft at break (est.) | 13kJ | wind from the south-west, 6 knots | 17°C |
| Thu 5Nov | 19, too small | 2 ft7 s3 ft at break (est.) | 31kJ | wind from the south-west, 9 knots | 17°C |
| Fri 6Nov | 25, poor | 5 ft5 s5 ft at break (est.) | 122kJ | wind from the south-south-west, 8 knots | 18°C |
| Sat 7Nov | 74, good | 3 ft7 s4 ft at break (est.) | 101kJ | offshorewind from the north-north-east, 12 knots, offshore | 16°C |
| Sun 8Nov | 64, good | 3 ft7 s4 ft at break (est.) | 92kJ | offshorewind from the north-north-west, 11 knots, offshore | 13°C |
| Mon 9Nov | 35, too small | 3 ft7 s4 ft at break (est.) | 76kJ | wind from the east-north-east, 10 knots | 13°C |
| Tue 10Nov | 23, poor | 4 ft7 s6 ft at break (est.) | 165kJ | wind from the east-north-east, 32 knots | 15°C |
Energy is the swell's power, in kJ per metre of wave. Wind is in knots, the arrow where it blows to; green is offshore. More
Tide
- Mon 2 NovHigh 00:36 +0.5 mLow 06:36 −0.5 mHigh 12:54 +0.7 mLow 19:24 −0.6 m
- Tue 3 NovHigh 01:44 +0.6 mLow 07:47 −0.5 mHigh 14:00 +0.6 mLow 20:23 −0.6 m
- Wed 4 NovHigh 02:46 +0.6 mLow 08:54 −0.5 mHigh 15:02 +0.6 mLow 21:17 −0.6 m
Local clock times; heights about mean sea level. On open coasts the times are usually within a quarter of an hour; in bays, estuaries and on the Gulf of Mexico they can be an hour or more out. Tide: EOT20 global ocean tide model, Hart-Davis et al. 2021, DGFI-TUM (doi:10.17882/79489), CC BY 4.0. Times and heights computed by us. A model, not a tide table: check a local table before you go.
Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.
Best time to go
No month stands out
Good days in a typical week, each month, for intermediate surfers, from 2016 on (history scored the same way).
- Jan1of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Jan
- Feb1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Feb
- Mar1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Mar
- Apr1of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Apr
- May1of 7: a trip from Sat 1 May
- Jun1of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Jun
- Jul0of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Jul
- Aug0of 7: a trip from Sat 7 Aug
- Sep1of 7: a trip from Sat 4 Sept
- Oct1of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Oct
- Nov1of 7: a trip from Tue 3 Nov
- Dec1of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Dec
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Typical, not a forecast.
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the spot and its town
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About Sailors haven
Facing, offshore wind, exposure, level and swell range are estimated.
The spot faces S (162°), so it takes swell from the S. The wind blows offshore from the N (342°). It is exposed to the open swell. It suits intermediate surfers and up. It works in 2–9 ft of swell. The sea is about 5°C in February, its coldest month (5/4 or 6/5, hood, boots and gloves), and 24°C in July, its warmest (no wetsuit). The town to stay in is Fire Island Pines, 3.4 km away (about 10 min by car). Within 5 km we also list 3 surf spots and 1 wind sports spot.
Water about 14°C: 4/3 wetsuit and boots. Typical sea temperature for the time of year, not a forecast.
The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).
Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,110–US$1,960 each
about US$1,110–US$1,960 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, hire car, stay, food, board and wetsuit.
Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 30 October 2026.
How we worked it out
| What | How we worked it out | Each |
|---|---|---|
| Flights | return ORD to JFK, estimated from distance and season, 4 airlines on the route, with a hold bag | about US$161–US$328 |
| Hire car | 6 days, shared | about US$154–US$255 |
| Stay | 6 nights, a mid-range double, shared | about US$301–US$502 |
| Food | 7 days eating out | about US$342–US$636 |
| Board and wetsuit | 5 days, or about US$114 to fly your own | about US$147–US$241 |
| Total | about US$1,110–US$1,960 |
For 2 people sharing a room. Lessons, lift-pass deals and insurance are extra. Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.
Where to stay: Fire Island Pines
about 10 min by car · 26 places to stay
about US$114/nightcountry average
About Fire Island Pines its beds, food and every spot near it
About US$114 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 30 October 2026.
Getting there: about 5h 30m
About 5h 30m door to door from Chicago
Fly ORD → JFK, direct, then 1h 20m by road
Flights ORD → JFK on your dates · Skyscanner
An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.