Saine, Montliboz - Syam
Kayak spot · France
Whitewater: a river with rapids
Is it worth the trip?
61Good out of 100 for your dates
Best on Mon 9: Wind 6 kn gusting 15, Air 14 °C, River levels: no free forecast gives them, so check a gauge before you go
Tue 3 · 56 out of 100
- Wind
- 2 kn
- Gusts
- 8kn
- Air
- 9°C
- Rain
- 0 mm
Wed 4 · 61 out of 100
- Wind
- 3 kn
- Gusts
- 10kn
- Air
- 12°C
- Rain
- 0 mm
Thu 5 · 65 out of 100
- Wind
- 3 kn
- Gusts
- 8kn
- Air
- 14°C
- Rain
- 0 mm
Fri 6 · 54 out of 100
- Wind
- 1 kn
- Gusts
- 7kn
- Air
- 8°C
- Rain
- 1.5 mm
Sat 7 · 56 out of 100
- Wind
- 4 kn
- Gusts
- 11kn
- Air
- 9°C
- Rain
- 0 mm
Sun 8 · 57 out of 100
- Wind
- 4 kn
- Gusts
- 11kn
- Air
- 10°C
- Rain
- 0 mm
Mon 9 · 66 out of 100
- Wind
- 6 kn
- Gusts
- 15kn
- Air
- 14°C
- Rain
- 0 mm
Tap a day for wind, gusts, air and rain. Full forecast
Forecast: next 10 days
Full forecast- Mon 255, fair
- Tue 356, fair
- Wed 461, good
- Thu 565, good
- Fri 654, fair
- Sat 756, fair
- Sun 857, fair
- Mon 966, good
- Tue 1072, good
- Wed 1159, fair
The spot in three facts
- Grade Vat its hardest
- Moving waterthe water
- Best Jun–Aug7 good days in 7
Full forecast
every day, every number
The score doesn't know the river level, weirs or your skill.
| Day | Score | Wind | Gusts | Air | Rain |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon 2Nov | 55, fair | 6 kn | 15kn | 8°C | 0 mm |
| Tue 3Nov | 56, fair | 2 kn | 8kn | 9°C | 0 mm |
| Wed 4Nov | 61, good | 3 kn | 10kn | 12°C | 0 mm |
| Thu 5Nov | 65, good | 3 kn | 8kn | 14°C | 0 mm |
| Fri 6Nov | 54, fair | 1 kn | 7kn | 8°C | 1.5 mm |
| Sat 7Nov | 56, fair | 4 kn | 11kn | 9°C | 0 mm |
| Sun 8Nov | 57, fair | 4 kn | 11kn | 10°C | 0 mm |
| Mon 9Nov | 66, good | 6 kn | 15kn | 14°C | 0 mm |
| Tue 10Nov | 72, good | 4 kn | 11kn | 17°C | 0 mm |
| Wed 11Nov | 59, fair | 5 kn | 14kn | 13°C | 9.6 mm |
Wind and gusts are in knots, rain in mm. River levels: no free forecast gives them, so check a gauge before you go. More
Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.
Best time to go
best Jun–Aug
Good kayaking days in a typical week, each month, for expert paddlers, from 2016 on (ERA5 history scored the same way).
- Jan0of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Jan
- Feb1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Feb
- Mar3of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Mar
- Apr4of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Apr
- May6of 7: a trip from Sat 1 May
- Jun7of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Jun
- Jul7of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Jul
- Aug7of 7: a trip from Sat 7 Aug
- Sep6of 7: a trip from Sat 4 Sept
- Oct5of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Oct
- Nov1of 7: a trip from Tue 3 Nov
- Dec0of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Dec
Tap a month to see this spot for a trip then.
Typical weather, not a forecast, and not the river's level: a month that is often good to be outside may still be low water.
Map
put-in, take-out, its town
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More kayaking near here
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- Saine, Source - Foncine le Bas (pont D437) 5.7 km away
About
the place in full, sources, credits
About Saine, Montliboz - Syam
A river section on the Saine, from a put-in down to a take-out. Grade IV to V, on the international scale. Suits expert paddlers only, by its grade. None within 10 km, the nearest 18 km away. For expert paddlers the best months are usually June, July and August, with about 7 good days in 7; in January and December, about 0. From the weather of past years. The town to stay in is Foncine-le-Haut. Within 5 km we also list 2 kayak spots and 1 mountain bike area.
- River Saine
- Grade Grade IV to V, on the international scale.
- Who it suits Suits expert paddlers only, by its grade.
- Access No source states the access rules: check locally.
- Schools, hire None within 10 km, the nearest 18 km away.
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The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).
Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,430–US$2,670 each
about US$1,430–US$2,670 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, hire car, stay, food, kayak hire.
Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.
How we worked it out
| What | How we worked it out | Each |
|---|---|---|
| Flights | return ORD to ZRH, estimated from distance and season, 2 airlines on the route, with a hold bag | about US$490–US$1,020 |
| Hire car | 6 days, shared | about US$141–US$235 |
| Stay | 6 nights, a mid-range double, shared | about US$329–US$543 |
| Food | 7 days eating out | about US$315–US$584 |
| Kayak hire | 5 days, or about US$114 to fly your own | about US$154–US$289 |
| Total | about US$1,430–US$2,670 |
Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.
Where to stay: Foncine-le-Haut
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10 min by car · 8 places to stay
about US$121/nightcountry average
About Foncine-le-Haut its beds, food and every spot near it
About US$121 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 2 November 2026.
Getting there: about 17h 20m
About 17h 20m door to door from Chicago
Fly ORD → ZRH, direct, then 3h 55m by road
Flights ORD → ZRH on your dates · AviasalesAdeSIM for your phone · Search on AiraloAd
An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.
On the water
Kayak trips and courses in Foncine-le-Haut · GetYourGuideKayak hire in Foncine-le-Haut · GetYourGuide
River level
River levels: no free forecast gives them, so check a gauge before you go.
Paddling schools, clubs and hire nearby
Base nautique des Rousses 18 km
Canoë Kayak Pontois 25 km
Grenouille Canoë 25 km
Canoëvasion 25 km
The nearest named schools, clubs and kayak or canoe hire within 25 km, in a straight line. Listings, not a recommendation. Schools, clubs and hire: © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL). Credits