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The 4x4
Surf spot · United States
Is it worth the trip?
31Poor out of 100 for your dates
Best on Sat 7: 5 ft swell at 7 s
Mon 2 · 6 out of 100
- Swell
- under 1 ft12 s
- Energy
- 6kJ
- Wind
- W 7 kn
- Temp
- 16°C
Tue 3 · 10 out of 100
- Swell
- 1 ft7 s
- Energy
- 13kJ
- Wind
- SW 6 kn
- Temp
- 16°C
Wed 4 · 13 out of 100
- Swell
- 1 ft5 s
- Energy
- 6kJ
- Wind
- S 4 kn
- Temp
- 17°C
Thu 5 · 30 out of 100
- Swell
- 4 ft6 s
- Energy
- 74kJ
- Wind
- S 12 kn
- Temp
- 18°C
Fri 6 · 36 out of 100
- Swell
- 5 ft7 s
- Energy
- 185kJ
- Wind
- SSW 9 kn
- Temp
- 18°C
Sat 7 · 49 out of 100
- Swell
- 5 ft7 s
- Energy
- 211kJ
- Wind
- WNW 8 kn
- Temp
- 13°C
Sun 8 · 35 out of 100
- Swell
- 2 ft8 s
- Energy
- 60kJ
- Wind
- W 8 kn
- Temp
- 11°C
Tap a day for waves, wind and the temperature. Full forecast
Forecast: next 10 days
Full forecast- Sun 119, too small
- Mon 26, too small
- Tue 310, too small
- Wed 413, too small
- Thu 530, poor
- Fri 636, poor
- Sat 749, fair
- Sun 835, too small
- Mon 929, too small
- Tue 1039, poor
The spot in five facts
- Faces Stakes swell from the S
- Offshore: Nwind from the land
- Intermediate +who it suits
- Works 3–10 ftof swell
- Water 14 °C4/3 wetsuit and boots
Full forecast
every day, every number
| Day | Score for intermediates | Swell | Energy | Wind | Temp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun 1Nov | 19, too small | 1 ft8 s2 ft at break (est.) | 21kJ | offshorewind from the north-north-east, 6 knots, offshore | 12°C |
| Mon 2Nov | 6, too small | under 1 ft12 s1 ft at break (est.) | 6kJ | wind from the west, 7 knots | 16°C |
| Tue 3Nov | 10, too small | 1 ft7 s2 ft at break (est.) | 13kJ | wind from the south-west, 6 knots | 16°C |
| Wed 4Nov | 13, too small | 1 ft5 s2 ft at break (est.) | 6kJ | wind from the south, 4 knots | 17°C |
| Thu 5Nov | 30, poor | 4 ft6 s4 ft at break (est.) | 74kJ | wind from the south, 12 knots | 18°C |
| Fri 6Nov | 36, poor | 5 ft7 s6 ft at break (est.) | 185kJ | wind from the south-south-west, 9 knots | 18°C |
| Sat 7Nov | 49, fair | 5 ft7 s6 ft at break (est.) | 211kJ | wind from the west-north-west, 8 knots | 13°C |
| Sun 8Nov | 35, too small | 2 ft8 s3 ft at break (est.) | 60kJ | wind from the west, 8 knots | 11°C |
| Mon 9Nov | 29, too small | 2 ft8 s3 ft at break (est.) | 38kJ | offshorewind from the north-north-west, 2 knots, offshore | 13°C |
| Tue 10Nov | 39, poor | 3 ft6 s4 ft at break (est.) | 71kJ | offshorewind from the north-north-east, 17 knots, offshore | 13°C |
Energy is the swell's power, in kJ per metre of wave. Wind is in knots, the arrow where it blows to; green is offshore. More
Tide
- Sun 1 NovLow 05:29 −0.5 mHigh 11:52 +0.8 mLow 18:27 −0.6 m
- Mon 2 NovHigh 00:42 +0.5 mLow 06:41 −0.5 mHigh 13:01 +0.7 mLow 19:31 −0.6 m
- Tue 3 NovHigh 01:51 +0.6 mLow 07:53 −0.5 mHigh 14:08 +0.7 mLow 20:31 −0.6 m
Local clock times; heights about mean sea level. On open coasts the times are usually within a quarter of an hour; in bays, estuaries and on the Gulf of Mexico they can be an hour or more out. Tide: EOT20 global ocean tide model, Hart-Davis et al. 2021, DGFI-TUM (doi:10.17882/79489), CC BY 4.0. Times and heights computed by us. A model, not a tide table: check a local table before you go.
Forecast updated . It refreshes every three hours. Forecast data: ECMWF, DWD, Météo-France and NOAA, served by Open-Meteo.com (CC BY 4.0). Changed by us. Generated using E.U. Copernicus Marine Service Information.
Best time to go
No month stands out
Good days in a typical week, each month, for intermediate surfers, from 2016 on (history scored the same way).
- Jan1of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Jan
- Feb1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Feb
- Mar1of 7: a trip from Sat 6 Mar
- Apr1of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Apr
- May1of 7: a trip from Sat 1 May
- Jun0of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Jun
- Jul0of 7: a trip from Sat 3 Jul
- Aug0of 7: a trip from Sat 7 Aug
- Sep1of 7: a trip from Sat 4 Sept
- Oct1of 7: a trip from Sat 2 Oct
- Nov0of 7: a trip from Mon 2 Nov
- Dec1of 7: a trip from Sat 5 Dec
Tap a month to see this spot for a trip then.
Typical, not a forecast.
Map
the spot and its town
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About
the place in full, sources, credits
About The 4x4
Facing, offshore wind, exposure, level and swell range are estimated.
The spot faces S (169°), so it takes swell from the S. The wind blows offshore from the N (349°). It is exposed to the open swell. It suits intermediate surfers and up. It works in 3–10 ft of swell. The sea is about 4°C in February, its coldest month (5/4 or 6/5, hood, boots and gloves), and 24°C in July, its warmest (no wetsuit). The town to stay in is Lindenhurst, 8 km away (about 15 min by car). Within 5 km we also list 5 surf spots.
Water about 14°C: 4/3 wetsuit and boots. Typical sea temperature for the time of year, not a forecast.
The score is the conditions only: the journey, the price and the partners never change it (how we score, how we earn).
Rough cost (estimate): about US$1,030–US$1,840 each
about US$1,030–US$1,840 each · 6 nights, 2 sharing: flights, taxi, stay, food, board and wetsuit.
Our estimate from typical public prices, not a quote: check the real prices before you book (where they come from). Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 30 October 2026.
How we worked it out
| What | How we worked it out | Each |
|---|---|---|
| Flights | return ORD to JFK, estimated from distance and season, 4 airlines on the route, with a hold bag | about US$161–US$328 |
| Taxi | airport and back, shared | about US$80–US$134 |
| Stay | 6 nights, a mid-range double, shared | about US$301–US$502 |
| Food | 7 days eating out | about US$342–US$636 |
| Board and wetsuit | 5 days, or about US$114 to fly your own | about US$147–US$241 |
| Total | about US$1,030–US$1,840 |
For 2 people sharing a room. Lessons, lift-pass deals and insurance are extra. Prices from public sources, checked in 2026.
Where to stay: Lindenhurst
14 min by car · 7 places to stay
about US$114/nightcountry average
About Lindenhurst its beds, food and every spot near it
About US$114 a night is our estimate of the country's average 2-star double room that month: not each town's price, and not a quote. Drives are estimates. Prices are about, in US Dollar (USD): our pound figures at the European Central Bank's rate of 30 October 2026.
Getting there: about 5h 05m
About 5h 05m door to door from Chicago
Fly ORD → JFK, direct, then 55 min by road
Flights ORD → JFK on your dates · Skyscanner
An estimate, one way; the journey never changes the score.